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PostPosted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 9:18 pm    Post subject: 1957 s120 4x Reply to specific post Reply with quote

trying to find the correct oil filter. Build sheet on the back of the visor says it has the 240 engine.
The oil pan is embossed with 220. Napa says the 220 takes a 1156 filter which didn't fit in the canister. Looking for advice. thx
 
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 6:56 am    Post subject: Re: 1957 s120 4x4 Reply to specific post Reply with quote

A '56 might have had the engine swapped by now. All the SD/BG/BD sixes had "220" stamped into the oil pan.

My '51 L-110 with the original SD-220 and the add-on factory option oil filter [they weren't standard equipment, as I understand it] takes the 1156. My '52 L-110, which has a later-vintage BD-264 installed by a previous owner, takes the equivalent of a Fram CH-333-PL oil filter [same filter they used on '59-'67 IH pickups/Travelalls with V8's equipped with the OE canister oil filter]. This might be what your truck takes as well.
 
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 9:03 am    Post subject: Re: 1957 s120 4x4 Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Thanks for the info Buzzman. I went out and looked at the build sheet this am. It does call out a 'deluxe oil filter'. The filter that came out of it
had a cloth surround and a little folding handle that you lifted it up with. No numbers though. What do the sd,bg,bd letters indicate?
 
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 10:29 am    Post subject: Re: 1957 s120 4x Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Hi, The SD = Silver Diamond, BD = Black Diamond, etc. Mike
 
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 11:20 am    Post subject: Re: 1957 s120 4x Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Take your filter and physically measure it. In the back of a NAPA catalog (prolly others too) it will have filter dimensions that give the exact size, diameter, length, etc. A good parts man will help you with that, or post the size of your filter and I can look in my catalog.
I have a '50 with an add-on filter, but I believe Buzzman has that covered.
 
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 1:00 pm    Post subject: Re: 1957 s120 4x4 Reply to specific post Reply with quote

The SD is the Silver Diamond series of engines, and included the SD-220 and SD-240. The BD is the Black Diamond engine series, and included the BD-220, BD-240, and the BD-264. The BG is a revised series of the BD engines, [some say it was for "Blue-Gray," but I'm not sure about that] and they are identical to the BD engines excep for the PCV valve system rather than still venting blow-by to the atmosphere via the road draft tube on the valve cover on the side of the block.

IH used two suppliers for their oil filters, DeLuxe and Michiana. The Michiana seems to have a "lift ring" on the element itself, while the DeLuxe is what we always called a "sock" filter, and the bail on the little basket--IH called it a "sump" in the parts book--that holds the filter is what's used to lift the filter element out of the housing.

But my parts books only go through the L-series trucks.
 
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 9:20 pm    Post subject: Re: 1957 s120 4x4 Reply to specific post Reply with quote

thanks all for the info. I did visit with my Napa parts guy today and we did get out the old parts books and look at measuremts. FYI the fram filter (333) crosses to the 1156 Napa filter which is too wide (4.53"). My deluxe (sock filter) is only about 4.25" wide and sits on top of a sumpcup that catches sludge. We settled on a Napa 1006 and tomorrow I'll see if it fits. Looking also for a book that details out the difference in 1950's IH trucks if there is such an animal out there. Thx again!
 
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 4:08 pm    Post subject: Re: 1957 s120 4x Reply to specific post Reply with quote

My 61 BD240 had a flat place machined on the side of the block near the top of the block (if I remember correctly). The info was stamped on that machined spot.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 4:25 pm    Post subject: Re: 1957 s120 4x Reply to specific post Reply with quote

My 61 BD240 had a flat place machined on the side of the block near the top of the block (if I remember correctly). The info was stamped on that machined spot.
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